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Pine

A SaaS product built overnight that gained 1,000+ users and 180K views

Web app Rated 7 Oct 2026Dormant

Link
pine.roggy.site
Built by
Tech Nerd

Bloat

124/500

Where it landed on the scale

Bloat
0
Float
300
Moat
400

Summary

Pine is a live AI form builder on its own domain with a stated $15/month plan, but the evidence shows only a landing page and pricing page, with no payment provider, no support contact, and no visible accounts. It's a thin, easily copied product with no update in about five months, and the creator's own list of projects suggests a broad portfolio rather than focused work on Pine.

Bloat · Not much here works or looks likely to last, yet.

Breakdown

Five measures, 100 points each. Open the receipts under any of them to see the posts and pages behind the points.

Viability

Is there a real problem, someone who would pay, and a market this builder can actually reach?

AI form building is a real need, and a $15/month price exists, but there's no sign anyone pays and no payment provider. The price is also USD-style SaaS pricing with nothing aimed at how local users pay.

25/100

Rubric 21–40A real problem, but no plausible path to anyone paying, or a market well out of this builder's reach.

Receipts (3)

  1. Lists a Pro plan at $15/mo, so a way to charge is intended.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site/pricing (opens in a new tab)

  2. No payment provider was detected, so it's unclear anyone can actually pay.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

  3. Claims 1,000+ users, but with no revenue or paid usage cited, it doesn't show demand for a paid product.

    “I can confidently say I can ship high quality SaaS products overnight with everything needed using AI and my own boilerplates. For example, I built pine.roggy.site literally overnight. I started around 6 PM, finished the core functionality by 2 AM, and spent the remaining time polishing the UI. Everything worked within 6–8 hours. That product alone went on to get 1,000+ users and over 180K views”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 16 Apr 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)

Moat

What stops someone copying it?

An AI form builder made overnight from boilerplates is something others could rebuild in a weekend, and the creator says as much. Nothing local, proprietary, or compounding is visible.

8/100

Rubric 0–20A thin wrapper or a clone that anyone here could rebuild in a weekend.

Receipts (2)

  1. The creator says it was built in 6 to 8 hours using AI and their own boilerplates, which shows how little effort a copy would take.

    “I can confidently say I can ship high quality SaaS products overnight with everything needed using AI and my own boilerplates. For example, I built pine.roggy.site literally overnight. I started around 6 PM, finished the core functionality by 2 AM, and spent the remaining time polishing the UI. Everything worked within 6–8 hours. That product alone went on to get 1,000+ users and over 180K views”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 16 Apr 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)

  2. The site is a generic 'build forms with AI' pitch with no local language, integrations, or data advantage.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

Momentum

Did the updates keep coming?

Activity spans only 25 days, with two posts in a single month and nothing since 2026-05-11, about five months ago. That's a short burst and not steady shipping.

0/100

  • Sustained shipping0/60

    Worked on across 25 days.

  • Consistency0/40

    Updates in 1 of 1 month.

  • Quiet

    No update for 149 days, so scaled to 44%.

Receipts (2)

  1. Earliest post about it.

    “I can confidently say I can ship high quality SaaS products overnight with everything needed using AI and my own boilerplates. For example, I built pine.roggy.site literally overnight. I started around 6 PM, finished the core functionality by 2 AM, and spent the remaining time polishing the UI. Everything worked within 6–8 hours. That product alone went on to get 1,000+ users and over 180K views”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 16 Apr 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)

  2. Most recent post about it.

    “Here are a few products I’ve built over the past few months: • an AI chatbot/coach builder with monetization • an AI form builder • an end to end AI boilerplate for shipping your next SaaS • an AI browser extension that checks privacy policies for u • record time lapse videos while u lock in (bugs still not fixed😁) unfinished projects • Xenon AI : an AI video editor • Lewi AI : a personal AI ou”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 11 May 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)

Infrastructure

Does a real, working product exist?

The site is live over HTTPS on its own domain with a pricing page, but there's no confirmed working form builder, no payments, and no privacy policy or terms. What's visible is closer to a landing page than a full product.

53/100

  • It's live20/20

    https://pine.roggy.site responded when checked.

  • HTTPS5/5

    Served over HTTPS.

  • Real product15/35

    The snapshots show a landing page and a pricing page. Nothing confirms the form builder itself works, since no accounts or app pages were found, so this is scored as a landing page or demo.

  • Own home10/10

    Lives on its own domain (pine.roggy.site).

  • Maintained0/15

    Last sign of shipping 2026-05-11.

  • Operations3/15

    It's a single web app on its own domain with HTTPS and a pricing page. There are no docs, API, status page, visible accounts, or second platform.

Receipts (5)

  1. https://pine.roggy.site responded when checked.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

  2. Landing page describes AI form building, but the crawler found no accounts or app functionality.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

  3. Pricing page promises unlimited forms, AI chat and analytics, but this is a claim and not a working feature we can see.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site/pricing (opens in a new tab)

  4. No docs, status page, accounts, or store links were found.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

  5. The pricing page has a sign-in prompt, which hints at an account system, though it wasn't confirmed.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site/pricing (opens in a new tab)

Sustainability

Is it being set up to last?

Distribution is just a web app on its own domain, and no payment provider is wired up, so the $15 plan can't be shown to bring in money. There's no privacy policy, terms, or support contact, and the creator's attention is spread across many projects.

38/100

  • Distribution25/30

    A web app on its own domain.

  • Payments0/15

    No payment provider found.

  • Pricing10/10

    A pricing page or stated prices on the site.

  • Revenue0/5

    No post mentions paying customers or revenue, and no payment provider was found. The posts cite users and views only.

  • Privacy policy0/7

    No privacy policy found.

  • Terms0/5

    No terms of service found.

  • Support0/8

    No support contact found.

  • Commitment3/20

    This is a solo project with no team, roadmap, or funding. The creator has a general channel and lists many other projects, several unfinished, with no dedicated Pine community and no update since May.

Receipts (5)

  1. A web app on its own domain.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

  2. Mentions 1,000+ users but no paying customers or income.

    “I can confidently say I can ship high quality SaaS products overnight with everything needed using AI and my own boilerplates. For example, I built pine.roggy.site literally overnight. I started around 6 PM, finished the core functionality by 2 AM, and spent the remaining time polishing the UI. Everything worked within 6–8 hours. That product alone went on to get 1,000+ users and over 180K views”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 16 Apr 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)

  3. No payment provider was detected on the site.

    Checked 7 Oct 2026 · pine.roggy.site (opens in a new tab)

  4. Pine is one item in a list of many products, with a separate list of unfinished ones, so focus on Pine is unclear.

    “Here are a few products I’ve built over the past few months: • an AI chatbot/coach builder with monetization • an AI form builder • an end to end AI boilerplate for shipping your next SaaS • an AI browser extension that checks privacy policies for u • record time lapse videos while u lock in (bugs still not fixed😁) unfinished projects • Xenon AI : an AI video editor • Lewi AI : a personal AI ou”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 11 May 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)

  5. Only mentions the creator's general Telegram channel, not a project-specific community.

    “I can confidently say I can ship high quality SaaS products overnight with everything needed using AI and my own boilerplates. For example, I built pine.roggy.site literally overnight. I started around 6 PM, finished the core functionality by 2 AM, and spent the remaining time polishing the UI. Everything worked within 6–8 hours. That product alone went on to get 1,000+ users and over 180K views”

    Post · @selfmadecoder · 16 Apr 2026 · open on Telegram (opens in a new tab)